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Will Downing Talks Longevity, Avoiding Trends and the Future of Music

Read Part I of our interview with Will Downing here. If the music industry were like the NBA, Will Downing would be like Vince Carter or Kevin Garnett — easily one of its longest-tenured members.  His career spans seven presidential administrations and predates smartphones, “The Simpsons,” and even Google — as a concept, company and […]
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If the music industry were like the NBA, Will Downing would be like Vince Carter or Kevin Garnett — easily one of its longest-tenured members. 

His career spans seven presidential administrations and predates smartphones, “The Simpsons,” and even Google — as a concept, company and verb. 

But Downing’s brand of sophisticated soul continues to age impeccably. This was evident at a recent concert he headlined at the Country Club Hills Amphitheater. 

On that night, Downing enthralled his audience completely. Women in the crowd sang along to his most notable ballads, including his smoldering 1992 duet with Rachelle Ferrell, “Nothing Has Ever Felt Like This.” Quite a few belted out Ferrell’s parts and closed their eyes as Downing crooned to them from the stage.

In Part II of our interview with Downing, he talked about his longevity, not bowing to trends and the younger singers he sees as the future. He also shared why he’ll continue to make music but will probably never release another album. 

Chicago Defender: Thirty-six years and 26 albums. That’s an incredible run. I know you get asked this question all the time. But I have to know, what keeps you going in this business? What do you attribute to your longevity?

Will Downing: Well, they keep sending bills to my house.

CD: Hahahahaha.

Will Downing: They just keep sending them. Honestly, this is what I enjoy doing. I don’t fall into that mindset of stopping because you’re of a certain age or anything like that. It’s like if you have something to say and if you’re artistic, then get it out. 

CD: Yeah. 

Will Downing: So as long as ideas keep coming to me, I’m going to keep recording. I’m going to keep releasing music, but quality music. The joy of the internet today is that any and everybody can do that. So that’s the great part. 

It’s not like I’m down at a record company, and I’m waiting on them to give me a budget to record or they’re telling me it’s not a good time. The internet is one of the greatest things that’s ever been recorded. It’s also one of the worst things that has ever been recorded. But it’s also one of the best things at the same time because it gives everybody an opportunity to say what they want to say, the way they want to say it, without having restraints. 

Write better songs, sing them better, produce or have them produced better. That’s always my goal. But I stay in my lane.

And that’s why I keep recording. It’s like, If I want to do this type of song, then I’m going to release this type of song. If it sells, it sells. If it don’t, it don’t. 

You can’t just hold it in. It’s not like the days when you release an album, and then you wait five years before you release another one. 

Those days are over. People have this insatiable thing. They just want new, new, new every month, every two months, every three months. You give them something, and then you turn around and it’s, ‘What else do you got coming? And I’m like, ‘I just released something.’ (Laughter)

CD: Yeah, that’s crazy. That’s really crazy. There used to be anticipation for an album for those couple of years. It was something you savored when an album was finally released. 

Will Downing: It ain’t like that no more. It’s like, [him addressing a fan] ‘Hey man, ‘I just wrote this.’ [The fan responds] ‘Okay, cool. That was yesterday. What we doing today?’ 

You have got to reinvent yourself all the time. It sounds kind of crazy, but it’s true. 

CD: Correct me if I’m wrong. But you seem very intentional about not succumbing to musical trends. Was that intentional?

Will Downing: I think that you have to know who you are. And, if you do this long enough, people will tell you what they expect from you. At the same time, you’ll get to know who you are and your strengths and weaknesses. So, my goal in every project that I release is to accentuate the positive and just be better at my strengths.

Write better songs, sing them better, produce or have them produced better. That’s always my goal. But I stay in my lane.

I watched the BET Awards the other day. And I couldn’t identify with a great deal of the artists that were there. I’m not going to conform to try to be that even though I might think or other artists might think that, ‘Oh yeah, I sing better than him or her or these people.’

The thing is, this is their sound. It’s their time. You’re not going to become that because that’s not you. And once you come to that real realization, it makes life a lot easier.

Once you know that trap ain’t your thing, or the new R&B ain’t your thing or rap ain’t your thing, it’s like that ain’t my thing. There’s an audience out there that I grew up with who appreciate what I do. 

And you know, young folks have to get older. When they grow up, I’ll always be here. There’s always going to be a good a** song that’s going to speak to your heart and say what you want to say and don’t know how to say it. And when that time comes, artists like myself become relevant. 

CD: Is there a young artist out there you’ve been following that you’re a fan of that people may be surprised to learn?

Will Downing: We all know extreme talent when we hear it. So like a Jazmine Sullivan. You hear her, and you kind of go, ‘Got damn.’ (Laughter) Man, that chick can sing! And we all recognize it. Or, even on the jazzier side, like a Samara Joy.

CD: Oh yeah. 

Will Downing: You hear her, and it’s like, ‘Ahhh, all is not lost.’ The future is here, and the future looks bright. This kid can really, really, really freaking sing. Or even for me, and this is going to sound crazy, but if you’ve had as many records as I’ve had, I look at someone like a Gregory Porter, and you know, he’s still young to me. Even though he may not be young as far as his actual age, but as far as his artistic journey, he’s just getting up the road. 

For me, I’m at the end of the road. He’s going to carry the torch. Samara Joy is going to carry the torch. They are the future to me.

I hear Samara, and I think Sarah Vaughn. And I hear Samara, and I also hear Lalah Hathaway. So it’s like, okay, you’re the future. When I hear even a Fantasia, I also hear Patti LaBelle — the early years. When I hear Gregory Porter, I hear Bill Withers.

So there are a lot of great artists. When I hear PJ Morton, the future looks bright. It’s just someone else’s turn.

CD: Yeah. So, here’s my last question here. What’s next for Will Downing?

Will Downing: I’m working on album number 27, even as we speak. I’m really happy with it so far. Yeah, I’m excited to see where it goes as well. I’m about four songs in. I have no idea what the other ones are going to sound like. It just depends on what hits me musically. But I’m excited about where we are. I’ll probably release something in October, November.

CD: Is it a full project or just a single?

Will Downing: I don’t think I’m ever going to do a full album again, like eight or ten cuts. I think we’ll just stick to just EPs, so it would be six or seven songs — something. 

In my opinion, if you release more than that, the only thing you’re going to do is get your feelings hurt. 

CD: Hahahaha. 

Will Downing: It’s true. People don’t have the patience to listen to a complete album anymore. And they’ll just skip over stuff. There might be some gems on the album, don’t get me wrong. But people go through albums, they listen to two minutes, and they go, ‘I like that one. I like that cut. I like that cut. I like that cut.’ And then they throw the other stuff aside. 

They very rarely revisit, or they very rarely listen to the whole album as a complete project. And there are very few outlets for the album itself or other songs on the album. 

That’s why people concentrate so much on their singles. They’re going to push the single and push these two singles. You don’t get your feelings hurt with the other five, six, seven, eight cuts that no one, as far as the majority of people, is going to hear. They’re just not going to hear it. CD

 

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Black Artists in America, Installation Three Wraps at the Dixon Gallery and Gardens

TRI-STATE DEFENDER — With 50+ paintings, sculptures and assemblages, the exhibit features artists like Varnette Honeywood from Los Angeles, whose pieces appeared in Bill Coby’s private collection (before they were auctioned off) and on “The Cosby Show.” Also included are works by Alonzo Davis, another Los Angeles artist who opened one of the first galleries there where Black Artists could exhibit. 

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The tulips gleefully greet those who enter the gates at the Dixon Gallery & Gardens on an almost spring day. More than 650,000 bulbs of various hues are currently on display. And they are truly breathtaking.

Inside the gallery, and equally as breathtaking, is the “Black Artists in America, From the Bicentennial to September 11” exhibit, which runs through Sunday, March 29. This is the third installment of a three-part series that started years ago and illustrates part of the Black experience through visual arts in the 20th century.

“This story picks up where part two left off,’’ said Kevin Sharp, the Linda W. and S. Herbert Rhea director for the Dixon. “This era is when we really start to see the emergence of these important Black artists’ agency and freedom shine through. They start to say and express what they want to, and it was a really beautiful time.”

With 50+ paintings, sculptures and assemblages, the exhibit features artists like Varnette Honeywood from Los Angeles, whose pieces appeared in Bill Coby’s private collection (before they were auctioned off) and on “The Cosby Show.” Also included are works by Alonzo Davis, another Los Angeles artist who opened one of the first galleries there where Black Artists could exhibit.

“Though [Davis] was from LA, he actually lived in Memphis for a decade,” said Sharp. “He was a dean at Memphis College of Art, and later opened the first gallery in New York owned and operated by black curators.”

Another featured artist is former NFL player, Ernie Barnes. His work is distinctive. Where have you seen one of his most popular paintings, Sugar Shack? On the end scene and credits of the hit show “Good Times.” His piece Saturday Night, Durham, North Carolina, 1974 is in this collection.

Memphis native James Little’s “The War Baby: The Triptych” is among more than 50 works featured in “Black Artists in America, From the Bicentennial to September 11” at the Dixon Gallery & Gardens, the final installment of a three-part series highlighting the impact and evolution of Black artists through 2011.

Memphis native James Little’s “The War Baby: The Triptych” is among more than 50 works featured in “Black Artists in America, From the Bicentennial to September 11” at the Dixon Gallery & Gardens, the final installment of a three-part series highlighting the impact and evolution of Black artists through 2011.

The exhibit features other artists with Memphis ties, including abstract painter James Little, who was raised in a segregated Memphis and attended Memphis Academy of Art (before it was Memphis College of Art). He later moved to New York, became a teacher and an internationally acclaimed fixture in the art world in 2022 when he was named a Whitney Biennial selected artist at the Whitney Museum of American Art in New York.

Other artists like Romare Bearden, who had a Southern experience but lived up North, were featured in all three installments.

“During this period of time, he was a major figure,” said Sharp. “He wrote one of the first books on the history of African American art during a time when there were more Black academics, art teachers, more Black everything!”

Speaking of Black educators, Sharp said the head curator behind this tri-part series and Dixon’s partner in the arts is Earnestine Jenkins, Ph.D., an art history professor at the University of Memphis, who also earned a Master of Arts degree from Memphis State University (now UofM).  “We began working with Dr. Jenkins in 2018,” he said.

Sharp explained that it takes a team of curators, registrars, counterparts at other museums, and more, about three years to assemble an exhibit like this. It came together quite seamlessly, he added. Each room conjured up more jaw-dropping “wows” than the one before it. Each piece worked with the others to tell the story of Black people and their collective experience during this time period.

One of the last artists about whom Sharp shared information was Bettye Saar, who will turn 100 years old this year. She’s been working in Los Angeles for 80 years and is finally getting her due. Her medium is collages or assemblages, and an incredible work of hers is on display. She’s married to an artist and has two daughters, also artists.

The exhibit catalogue bears some of these artists’ stories, among other scholarly information.

The exhibit, presented by the Joe Orgill Family Fund for Exhibitions, is culturally and colorfully rich. It is a must see and admission to the Dixon is free.

Visit https://www.dixon.org/ to learn more.

Fun Facts: An original James Little design lives in the flooring of the basketball court at Tom Lee Park, and he makes and mixes his own paint colors.

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Grief, Advocacy, and Education: A Counselor Reflects on Black Maternal Health

SAN DIEGO VOICE & VIEWPOINT — Last month healthcare leaders, birth workers, and community members gathered to honor the legacy of Charleston native Dr. Janell Green Smith, a nurse-midwife and doctor of nursing practice who died in January from childbirth complications. She had participated in more than 300 births and specialized in helping Black women give birth safely.  

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In 2024, the number of U.S. mothers who died as a result of pregnancy or childbirth dropped compared to 2023. But while slightly fewer Black mothers died that year, they still had three times the mortality rate of white women.

South Carolina’s rates of maternal deaths outpaced even the national rates. In fact, the state’s overall rate of maternal deaths between 2019 and 2023 was higher than all but eight states and the District of Columbia.

Last month healthcare leaders, birth workers, and community members gathered to honor the legacy of Charleston native Dr. Janell Green Smith, a nurse-midwife and doctor of nursing practice who died in January from childbirth complications. She had participated in more than 300 births and specialized in helping Black women give birth safely.

Her death shocked the community and her colleagues who are determined to address concerns about Black maternal health. The event also covered the importance of protecting mental health during grief and of men’s role in solving the maternal health crisis.

As both a therapist and a father, Lawrence Lovell, a licensed professional counselor and founder of Breakthrough Solutions, discussed ways the event’s attendees could process their grief over Green Smith’s death. He also shared ways male partners can advocate for women’s maternal health during pregnancy and childbirth.

Lovell spoke not just as a therapist but also as a father whose own family had briefly crossed paths with Green Smith. The event, he said, emerged organically from a moment of collective mourning.

Despite the grief, “it was still, like, a really beautiful event, a much-needed event, and it almost felt like we were all giving each other a collective family hug,” says Lovell.

His connection to Green Smith, Lovell says, was brief but meaningful during his wife’s pregnancy with their second child. Green Smith was practicing at the same birthing center where they had their child. She began practicing in Greenville a short time later.Even that short connection carried significance for Lovell, given the small number of Black maternal health professionals.

Lovell did not initially plan to become a mental health practitioner; he chose the career path after graduating from college, when someone suggested he consider psychology. His interest deepened when he noticed how few Black men work in mental health.

“Being Black man and playing football in college, there weren’t a lot of people that look like me talking about mental health,” says Lovell. “[I wanted] to give people that look like me an opportunity to work with someone that looks like them.”

Working with Expectant and New Parents

Lovell often counsels couples preparing for parenthood by, helping partners understand what a successful pregnancy, childbirth, and postpartum recovery look like. That often means helping women manage postpartum depression.

As a man, Lovell says, it’s “humbling” that a woman “just trusts me enough to work with me through their pregnancy or their postpartum recovery.”

In his work, Lovell has noticed how few men understand pregnancy before they experience it with their partner. Because early pregnancy symptoms are often invisible, he says, men may underestimate how much support a mom-to-be actually needs.

“Sometimes they may not realize they don’t know much about pregnancy and what to expect in those three trimesters,” Lovell says. “I tell a lot of the men that just because you can’t see [she’s pregnant] doesn’t mean that she won’t appreciate your intense support in that first trimester.”

Education about pregnancy and postpartum recovery, he says, can change how men support their partners.

Teaching Advocacy in the Delivery Room

Another major focus of Lovell’s counseling is preparing men to advocate for mothers during labor.

“Helping men understand what pregnancy looks like: what delivery is going to look like, and what are the realistic expectations that I should have of myself in postpartum,” he says.

Lovell encourages partners to be honest about their expectations for what will happen during delivery. He helps them prepare for the big day by discussing the birth plan and knowing how to quickly recognize problems. Clear communication, he says, prevents misunderstandings.

He regularly trains men to ask their partners detailed questions about their expectations during and after pregnancy. Advocacy in medical settings can be especially important and requires attention to details the mother may not be able to address.

“It’s always important to fine-tune things and truly understand what helps your partner feel most supported,” Lovell says. “Instead of guessing, you should ask.”

Lovell recalls a moment during the birth of his first child when he had to take that role.

During the delivery, “I felt like something wasn’t as sanitary as I’d like it to be,” he says. “I asked, ‘Hey, can you switch those out? Can you change your gloves?’”

Lovell has a succinct but powerful message he regularly shares with clients’ families, and he shared it with attendees at last month’s event.

“Just to believe women,” he says. “I’ve worked with different couples, and sometimes I’m not really sure that there’s enough empathy from the men.”

That includes how women express pain.

“If a woman says, ‘my pain is at a nine,’ just because how you would express yourself at a nine is different than how she’s expressing herself at [that level] doesn’t mean you shouldn’t believe her,” he says.

Empathy, he says, can change outcomes far beyond the delivery room.

“We’ve got to believe women when they’re talking about their experiences and their feelings and their pain,” he says. “I think there’s a lot that we can prevent if we empathize better.”

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Future of Florida’s Black History Museum in Limbo

JACKSONVILLE FREE PRESS — A proposal sponsored by Tom Leek, a Republican from Ormond Beach, has now passed the Senate in back-to-back legislative sessions. But the House version, filed by Kiyan Michael, a Jacksonville Republican, did not receive final approval in either year, effectively stalling the effort.

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Plans to establish a long-awaited Black history museum in Florida are once again on hold after legislation needed to advance the project failed to clear the state House for a second consecutive year, despite repeated approval in the Senate.

A proposal sponsored by Tom Leek, a Republican from Ormond Beach, has now passed the Senate in back-to-back legislative sessions. But the House version, filed by Kiyan Michael, a Jacksonville Republican, did not receive final approval in either year, effectively stalling the effort.

Under Florida law, identical or similar bills must pass both chambers before heading to the governor’s desk. Without House approval, the legislation has been unable to move forward, leaving the project in limbo. Long journey, contested location.

The proposed museum, formally known as the Florida Museum of Black History, has been years in the making, with lawmakers and community leaders framing it as a long-overdue institution to preserve and showcase the state’s African American heritage .A central point of contention has been the museum’s location. St. Augustine — widely recognized as the nation’s oldest city and a site deeply tied to both slavery and early Black history — emerged as the leading contender. Supporters argue the city’s historical significance makes it a natural home for the museum. However, competing interests and regional considerations have fueled debate, slowing consensus among lawmakers.

While the Senate-backed measure has consistently advanced, the lack of alignment in the House has underscored ongoing divisions about how and where the project should take shape.

The holdup in the Florida House appears to be less about opposition to the museum itself and more about a combination of procedural bottlenecks, unresolved structural issues, and lingering disagreements over how the project should be formalized and governed.

Despite the legislative setbacks, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has publicly voiced support for the museum. Speaking last month during the unveiling of a statue of abolitionist Frederick Douglass in St. Augustine, DeSantis said the project would move forward “one way or another,” signaling an intent to see the museum built regardless of legislative hurdles.

The anticipated museum has already cleared several hurdles. St. Johns County signed an agreement last year with Florida Memorial University to use the land that once housed its campus last year’s legislative session netted $1 million in funding for St. Johns County to work on planning and design for the museum. However, its anticipated that a million $3 million is needed.

Still, without statutory approval to finalize key components — including governance, funding mechanisms and site selection — the project remains largely conceptual.
With the House bill failing again, the timeline for the museum’s development is unclear. Lawmakers could revisit the proposal in the next legislative session, but any further delays risk pushing the project back several more years. Advocates warn that continued inaction could stall momentum for a museum many see as critical to telling a fuller, more accurate story of Florida’s past. For now, the effort remains paused — caught between political support at the top and legislative gridlock within the Capitol.

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